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°1878

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Report/Article TitlB Statement on Herbicides and Chemicals and Vietnam
Veterans Made by The minister for Veterans' Affairs,
The Hon. A. E. Adermann, M. P. in the House of
Representatives, 31 March 1980.

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Includes cover letter from the Australian embassy to Colonel
George D. Lathrop, Chief, Epidemiological Division, School of
Air Force Medicine, Brooks AFB, Texas.

Wednesday, July 18, 2001

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WASHINGTON. D. C.

Sir Nicholas Parkinson

May 9, 1980

Colonel George D. Lathrop
Chief, Epidemiological Division
School of Air Force Medicine
Brooks Air Force Base
TEXAS 78235

AUS TRALIAN_INVESTIGATION_INTO
THE* EFFECTS" OF ""AGENTTORANGE|T

I would like to thank you personally, as well as
on behalf of the Australian Government, for the assistance
which you and your staff so willingly extended to
Commissioner Medbury when he visited Washington recently.
Commissioner Medbury has now completed his report
to the Australian authorities and the Australian Government:,
has decided that it will conduct a major study in an attempt
to achieve a satisfactory scientific resolution of the
questions which have been raised concerning the effects of
"agent orange" on servicemen. You may bo interested in the
nature and scope of this study and I am attaching a
statement, made by our Minister for Veterans' Affairs to
Parliament, which sets out those details.
Please do not hestitate to let me know if there
are further ways in which this Embassy can assist your
enquiries.

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�STATEMENT ON HERBICIDES AND CHEMICALS AND VIETNAM VETERANS
MADE BY
THIS MINISTER FOR VETERANS' AFFAIRS,
THE HON. A.E. ADERMANN, M.P.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
31 MARCH 1980

�Mr S p e a k e r , d u r i n g l.ho l a s t few m o n t h s , t h e r e has been
ip.:.1! oar&gt; I.;rj c o n c e r n !v M e m b e r s of t h i s House, by the m e d i a and by
i n . J i v i r t u a l v'c-ri.orari; 1 . and t h e i r r e p r e s e n t a t i v e o r g a n i s a t i o n s t h a t
con I-oc;. \ / j t h h e r b i c i d e s and other chemicals in Vietnam r^ay have
h.ul on i!iip&lt;\ct on tlio h e a l t h of. v e t e r a n s such as to cause long-terra
d i n a b i 1. i ti en . T h e r e is also i n c r e a s i n g concern t h a t contact w i t h
the::o c'.v;-::,.i.c.\l.'.;, s p r a y e d for v a r i o u s reasons r a n g i n g f r o m
do To.] i at t o n to disease c o n t r o l , may also have caused m a l f o r m a t i o n s
in c h i l d r e n born a f t e r the period of the v e t e r a n s ' service in
Vietnam .
Mr Speaker, the Government has been acutely aware of that
concern. Since the m a t t e r f i r s t came to notice we have moved
w i t h o u t h e s i t a t i o n and w i t h all speed to attempt to resolve the
issues t h a t have a r i s e n .
In my statement to the House on 21 February of this y e a r , 1
set out in v e r y comprehensive terms the n a t u r e of the d i s a b i l i t i e s
fJLom which some v e t e r a n s had reported they w e r e s u f f e r i n g , the
m a n n e r in w h i c h out: g e n e r o u s R e p a t r i a t i o n system - w h i c h has been
developed, t r i e d and proven over many years - was able to assist
and, in a d d i t i o n , l mentioned the i n i t i a t i v e s we had t a k e n ,
w i t h o u t d e l a y , in s e e k i n g to f i n d a responsible r e s o l u t i o n of the
problems r a i s e d by the v e t e r a n s .
One of the d i f f i c u l t i e s w i t h which we are faced arid w h i c h we
s h a r e w i t h the U n i t e d States a u t h o r i t i e s , Mr Speaker, is to
establish s c i e n t i f i c a l l y t h a t the symptoms and medical problems
being e x p e r i e n c e d by veterans and t h e i r f a m i l i e s are due to
exposure of the v e t e r a n to h e r b i c i d e s , of which Agent Orange is
the most n o t o r i o u s , d u r i n g the v e t e r a n s ' service in V i e t n a m .
I hasten to a d d , Mr Speaker, t h a t i n s o f a r as the
d i s a b i l i t i e s of the v e t e r a n himself are concerned, our
R e p a t r i a t i o n system does not r e q u i r e t h a t cause be proven - it
enough t h a t a r e l a t i o n s h i p , a l i n k , be f o u n d between his
d i s a b i l i t y and his service for us to accept his d i s a b i l i t y as
s e r v i c e - r e l a t e d and to a d m i t the v e t e r a n to the pension an-J
t r e a t m e n t b e n e f i t s t h a t would then f l o w .

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Bu!; i.'c rvsnnot , cvcr.i g i v e n the g e n e r o s i t y of our R e p a t r i a t i o n
r y n l - i . :i, :!cac;y.: '.vitiioi.it. q u e s t i o n t h a t e x p o s u r e to h e r b i c i d e s in
V i O v . n . » : r ; nv,i3L i n e v i t a b l y be the cause of the delayed long-term
heal t'.i pro hie.:?,:: -which a r e the? s u b j e c t of c u r r e n t c l a i m s .

It was bo cause of. the real need to resolve this question of
whether or not exposure to herbicides would result in health
problems, that the Government acted immediately the possibility
was brought to notice, in a positive way.
/

We arranged that a Repatriation Commissioner should visit
the United States of America to study at first hand the various
endeavours that are being made in that country to resolve like
problems. Mr Speaker, the problems may be alike but the
magnitudes differ enormously. We had about 41,000 servicemen in
Vietnam, the United States had two and a half million; but that
wide difference- is no more than a statistical fact - our concern
is as deep as we believe to be that of the United States
authorities .
We also asked the scientific body most appropriate to the
task, the Commonwealth Institute of Health (formerly known as the
School of: Public Health and Tropical Medicine) at the University
of Sydney to inform the Government whether it was possible to
establish, as a matter of scientific fact, whether exposure to
herbicides in Vietnam could have an influence on the health of
veterans or produce an unusual incidence of abnormalities at birth
of veteran's children.
My statement to the House on 21 February set out the nature
of the study suggested by the Institute and explained that its
feasibility had to be tested, as the data necessary to guarantee a
valid result are both comprehensive and could be difficult to
obtai n.
Mr Speaker, subject to the availability of certain data
which appears at this stage to be forthcoming, the Government is
now j:?.tl&lt;sCi«Dd that this :;ia;;or study is not only legible but
essential if a satisfactory scientific resolution to the question
is to be reached.

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It ...ay bo help:, a 1. to the House, Mr Speaker, if I give some
rii1.'. ••.;•.••.:•! ; of: the nature and a copy of the .study that has been
po.;-...; .'. , t.iie Co.-.i.r.onwealth Institute ol: Health.
The U-;~.Lo design of the study will be a comparison of three
groups of voter. "ins. These are Australian veterans who were in Vietnam and were
exposed to herbicides and other chemicals of
significance;
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Australian veterans who were in Vietnam but were not
judged to be exposed to herbicides but perhaps
exposed to other environmental hazards; and
A matched and comparable group of Australian veterans
who did not go to Vietnam and have not been exposed
to the herbicides and other chemicals used there.
These groups will be compared to see whether there are 1.

Differences in the incidence of defined illnesses in
the veterans themselves;

2.

Differences in the incidence of certain genetic
defects in their offspring compared with the control
group; and

3.

Differences in the incidence of birth defects in
their offspring and the incidence of abortion in
their wives.

This is known as a Cohort Study.
There are basic criteria that have to be met before the
study is feasible such as:information on the names and units of veterans and
their geographical locations in time in Vietnam
at least 90% and preferably more of those veterans
must be able to be traced in Australia

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mocHcal records before service and at. enlistment, if
any
record:;, of birt.hr; and deaths in Australia, maintained
by tho State Registrars-General f and other records
such as those of the Department of Social Security
and of; the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
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Tho study would progress by means of an assessment of every
veteran in the cohort and his children by means of interview by a
specially trained team and, in addition, the assessment would
utilize existing hospital records and records of mortality and
morbidity.
Data would be collected on potential confounding variables
such as s-.noking, occupational hazards and the use of drugs and
me die in o.c&gt; .
Any suggestions of positive findings which appeared would be
studied in greater depth, involving comprehensive interviews by
specially trained field workers.
The task of statistical collection, analysis and
interpretation would be enormous, Mr Speaker. Some 60,000
veterans whose families would be expected to include approximately
100,000 children, will be interviewed and a questionnaire will
have to be completed about each. We estimate that a full time
specially trained work force would be engaged for about a year on
this task.
We have decided to ask the Commonwealth Institute of Health
to press on with the study as quickly as possible.

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Mr E ' J O i i K o r , T a:;i a w a r e t h a t t h i s decision w i l l not bo
u n i v e r s a l l y nc..'clai:\i(.'d. For i n s t a n c e , we know as a r e s u l t of the
v i s i t of Mr i'loclbucy, a member of the R e p a t r i a t i o n C o m m i s s i o n , t h a t
the U n i t e d .Stater, of A m e r i c a is engaged in a very large research
e f f o r t . There; are two m a j o r opiderniological s t u d i e s of veterans
and several waller studies of workers who have been exposed to
components of Agent O r a n g e under way in that c o u n t r y . There are
also l a b o r a t o r y studies designed to establish w h e t h e r any of the
components of Agent O r a n g e may produce genetic damage or i n d u c e
a l t e r a t i o n s in males that may r e s u l t in their- f a t h e r i n g m a l f o r m e d
o f f s p r i n g . It m i g h t be suggested t h a t we await the r e s u l t of such
r e s e a r c h w o r k , r a t h e r t h a n e m b a r k on our own.
W e l l , Mr Speaker, the G o v e r n m e n t does not accept t h a t "sit
back, w a i t and see" a t t i t u d e ! We are aware t h a t even the i n i t i a l ,
far f r o m f i n a l r e s u l t s of these American s u r v e y s appear to bo at
least two years away, that even these major studies may not
produce c o n c l u s i v e r e s u l t s and t h a t , in the eyes of the A u s t r a l i a n
v e t e r a n com:aunity - by w h i c h we are prepared to be j u d g e d on our
r e c o r d - the U n i t e d S t a t e s s t u d i e s of U n i t e d States v e t e r a n s may
not be r e l e v a n t to our A u s t r a l i a n e x p e r i e n c e .
It has also been s u g g e s t e d , Mr S p e a k e r , t h a t we may be ablo
to speed up the r e s u l t s and reduce the very heavy costs, by sample
s u r v e y s of say 2 , 0 0 0 or 3 , 0 0 0 of the 41,000 veterans who w e r e in
V i e t n a m . My v e r y best a d v i c e , Mr S p e a k e r , is t h a t t h e r e would be
very real problems w i t h the v a l i d i t y of any conclusion d r a w n f r o m
such a sample survey. The comparative r a r i t y of occurrence of the
diseases in the c o m m u n i t y as a whole is such that no less than the
e n t i r e Vietna.ii v e t e r a n population, compared w i t h a control group
of s i m i l a r composition t h a t did not go to V i e t n a m , of about
2 0 , 0 0 0 , m u s t be covered by the s u r v e y .
Mr Speaker, I hope t h a t every V i e t n a m v e t e r a n , irrespectivr, 1
of any doubt he may have about any possible e f f e c t s of exposure to
h e r b i c i d e s , w i l l come f o r w a r d at the a p p r o p r i a t e time to
p a r t i c i p a t e in the survey.

�-6A !c:!'.;c:it- has bof.-n ir.ddo, Mr S p e a k e r , t h a t i n s t e a d of t h i s
iitajoi- • • ; _ • ' . ;:ii.o.l o g i f n l .'.itudy, a forrc of: j u d i c i a l i n q u i r y bo sot
up. U '•'"•• •''.'on s u g g e s t e d t h - i t t h i s i n q u i r y should have, ;is a
ba 5:.;. o ;.;. v : • • : : • I; i o n , 1-};e pr es;in\ pi. i on t h a t a vast range of sy,nptom : •
covorir.-;; vi i: t u a l l y all. medical c o n d i t i o n s are caused by exposure
t o her U c : . &lt; • : : • ; i n V i o t n c u T i . I t is envisaged t h a t , L n t h i s i n q u i r y ,
thJ:", p::r-.vr,;.;.-r..i.op. should be r e b u t t e d by the Commonwealth.
Mr Spoa!;.;:r , i t cannot- be proved t h a t a causal r e l a t i o n s h i p between
each an.:! e v e r y c o n d i t i o n w i t h i n t h a t vast r a n g e does not e x i s t proof ol: :-\&gt;::h n e g a t i v e - a s s o c i a t i o n is not possible in the
circiun.-'.UKicos. in a d d i t i o n , t'no a v a i l a b l e s c i e n t i f i c l i t e r a t u r e
on w h i c h such an i n q u i r y must largely depend,was studied as
r e c e n t l y as 1977 by an agency of the World Health O r g a n i s a t i o n .
It concluded t h a t f u r t h e r s t u d i e s i n c l u d i n g those of an
epidemiologies! n a t u r e , such as will be done in A u s t r a l i a , w e r e
needed to resolve the q u e s t i o n .

In c o n s i d e r i n g the n a t u r e of t h i s f o r m of i n q u i r y , the
Govoi.TmionL was not able to see how it would help resolve the most
di 55 t r e e si rig of the problems f a c e d by some V i e t n a m v e t e r a n s .
It
would not a s s i s t , Mr S p e a k e r , in assessing the medical c o n d i t i o n
of the members of the v e t e r a n s ' f a m i l y , in e s t a b l i s h i n g what
t r e a t m e n t and d i s a b i l i t y pension payments would be a p p r o p r i a t e ,
and in helping him to make decisions as to w h e t h e r or not he and
his w i f e should have more c h i l d r e n . There would be n o t h i n g
personal or i m m e d i a t e l y h e l p f u l to the v e t e r a n in such an i n q u i r y .
For all these reasons, Mr Speaker, the Government has
decided t h a t the r e q u e s t for t h i s f o r m of i n q u i r y must be r e f u s e d .
In this r e j e c t i o n , Mr Speaker, and in the decision to press
on w i t h the major epidemiologies! study of which I f i r s t i n f o r m e d
the House in F e b r u a r y , the Government is most evidently not
seeking to avoid any i s s u e , but r a t h e r uuir.t be seen as i n t e n t on
seeking answers to questions t h a t so u n d e r s t a n d a b l y are
d i s t r e s s i n g to A u s t r a l i a n v e t e r a n s and t h e i r f a m i l i e s . The
e x p e n d i t u r e on the s u r v e y will exceed two million dollars and it
will e x t e n d , in its major phase, over some two years. H o w e v e r , it
is expected to provide s c i e n t i f i c a l l y v a l i d r e s u l t s t h a t will give
a basis for u n d e r s t a n d i n g w h i c h w i l l be i n v a l u a b l e not only to
enable the G o v e r n m e n t to move to w h a t e v e r f u r t h e r m e a s u r e s are
a p p r o p r i a t e but as a s i g n i f i c a n t c o n t r i b u t i o n to medical
s c i e n t i f i c knowledge t h r o u g h o u t the world.
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�-7V?o i.'0l3-.jvo i t i.-: l i k e l y to prove the only, way that the
. ! • • ! •"*'•: e r an a of s e r v i c e in V i e t n a m can be given the
a s s u r e ' . - ; :. :.-.i',;it t h e y r;o un J e r r . t a n d a b l y need.

To c.n'.vincc w o r l d - w i d e as well as loca] acceptance of the
s t u d y , i ': in i n t e n d e d tha 1 : a small g r o u p of: s c i e n t i s t s ,
indooon:"!"iiL and w i t h world-wide c r e d i b i l i t y as epidemiologists, be
er.taixli:;:: r od to assess and endorse the methodology of the s t u d y and
to co:n::&gt;.ont on any a l t e r a t i o n s which may become necessary in the
s t u d y d . i / i n g i t s course. I propose to announce the composition of
that s e l e c t y r o u p to the House as soon as practicable b u t ,
f

Mr Speaker, the continuing progress of the study will not be held
up aw a i. i: i ng these appo i n tm en t s .
I continue to say, as I said when the first complaints were
made, that those veterans who feel they have been affected by
herbicides during their service in Vietnam should lodge a claim
with ray Department GO that medical examinations can be carried out
to establish a diagnosis and to make recommendations on whether
any disabilities found could be linked with their service in
Vietnam, to the independent authorities which make the
determinations.
Mr Speaker: , I have said on earlier occasions that the
Government has acted with all speed and understanding in this
matter. I have kept the House informed of developments as they
have occurred. I am pleased, Mr Speaker, to inform Honourable
Members now of this very significant further step that the
Government has decided to take to resolve the uncertainties
underlying the question of whether exposure to herbicides, during
the Vietnam conflict, has had or may in future be likely to have,
an impact on the health of Australian Vietnam veterans and their
children.

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