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Study Discounts Links Between Agent Orange,
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Doscrlpton Notes

Monday, June 11, 2001

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Occupational Health &amp; Safety Letter, August 22, 1984

dence. Because of the strengths and weaknesses of the data to be evaluated in the
assessment of human risk and the complexity of the problem, case-by-case analysis is
most appropriate."
INDUSTRY SEEKS MODIFICATION, STAY OF ETHYLENE OXIDE ORDER:
The Association of Ethylene Oxide Users has asked OSHA to modify its recent
standard for worker exposure to ethylene oxide (EtO) and has petitioned the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia for a stay of the order.
The 1 ppm permissible exposure limit and the signs and labels stating that EtO
is a cancer and reproductive hazard "cannot be shown to be necessary to eliminate
significant risks" and therefore the order should be stayed, it told the court
through Washington attorney David H. Larry.
In its comments to OSHA, the industry group said its grounds for a modification
and stay are based on the failure to justify the need for a short-term exposure
limit of 10 ppm for 15 minutes, the inability to demonstrate the need for a PEL of 1
ppm, and the lack of evidence that signs and labels saying EtO is a "cancer hazard
and reproductive hazard" are needed.
CDC STUDY DISCOUNTS LINKS BETWEEN AGENT ORANGE, BIRTH DEFECTS:

To the surprise of few observers, the Centers for Disease Control found that
Vietnam veterans generally are no more likely to father children with birth defects
than non-veterans as a result of exposure to Agent Orange.
Dr. J. David Erickson, who directed the study, wrote in the Journal of the
American Medical Association (Aug. 17) that they gained health histories from the
parents of a case group of nearly 5,000 babies born with defects and compared them
with the histories from parents of a control group of about 3tOOO babies born
without defects.
Both groups were drawn from all the approximately 325,000 births in Atlanta
from 1968 through 1980. The background risk of serious birth defects in the general
population is between 2 and 3 percent.
"The conclusion that Vietnam veterans in general have not fathered babies with
all types of birth defects combined at higher rates than other men is based on
relatively strong evidence," Dr. Erickson and colleagues wrote.
"In addition, this study does not provide support to the notion that those men
who may have been exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam have had an increased risk of
fathering babies with most types of defects. The conclusion regarding the lack of
increased risks associated with Agent Orange is based on considerably weaker evidence than the conclusion about Vietnam veterans in general."
About 50,000 tons of Agent Orange were used in Vietnam, containing a total of
368 pounds of TCDD. Approximately 2.6 million Americans served in Vietnam.
The CDC birth defects study estimated exposure to Agent Orange by interviewing
the Vietnam veterans and by studying military records that showed troop movements
and spraying missions.
It was the second study this year to discount the health effects of Agent
Orange on Vietnam veterans. In February the Air Force released initial findings of
an ongoing study of 1,200 airmen who sprayed Agent Orange in Vietnam. It found them
to be generally in good health but with higher rates of skin cancer, liver disorders
and circulatory problems than the general population. It stressed, however, that
evidence directly linking these problems to Agent Orange was lacking.
A Federal District Court in New York is conducting hearings to determine
whether to accept a $180 million out-of-court settlement in a class-action lawsuit
by Vietnam veterans exposed to dioxin.
Meanwhile, on the basis of the studies by the Air Force and CDC, Sen. Alan
Cranston (D-CA) says he will introduce legislation directing the Veterans Administration to develop and evaluate various approaches for providing health care,

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rehabilitation and compensation to affected children with birth defects.
LET US SPRAY — BUT EPA SEEKS GREATER FARMWORKER PROTECTION:
EPA plans to expand and strengthen current regulations for protecting farmworkers who use agricultural pesticides.
Under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide and Rodenticide Act, EPA is responsible for licensing all pesticides to prevent any unreasonable risks and hazards they
may pose to the environment and public health, and this responsibility extends to
agricultural workers.
The proposal is based on a determination that the pesticide farmworker protection standards adopted in 1974 do not adequately reflect the latest information on
the potential adverse effects of pesticide exposure.
The changes would expand the current regulations to set safe work practices for
categories of workers not currently covered. These include mixers, loaders and
applicators of pesticides. The current standards are limited to field workers who
perform hand labor after fields have been sprayed with pesticides.
The regulations would require employers to provide training, supervision,
personal protective equipment, emergency medical attention and other protective
measures for their employees.
The agency also intends to revise the time intervals required before workers
can reenter a field after certain pesticides have been applied, and is considering
setting a minimum 24-hour reentry interval for the most hazardous category of pesticides (toxicity 1 category). Certain exemptions may be considered for non-hazardous
uses, and longer intervals may be required for certain pesticides.
The protective clothing requirements for field workers may also be revised to
include gloves or other equipment for workers performing tasks prior to expiration
of reentry intervals to reduce exposure to freshly sprayed fields.
The current standard requires that workers be warned before they begin working
in a field treated or to be treated with certain pesticides. The employers now have
the option of giving the warnings orally or by posting warning signs at points of
entry to the field.
EPA is considering revisions to those requirements and will address whether, in
addition to oral warnings, the posting of fields should remain optional or be
required. The person or persons responsible for communicatring warnings may also be
specified, the agency said.
All comments should be submitted within 45 days to Environmental Protection
Agency, Program Management and Support Division (TS-767C), Office of Pesticide
Programs, 401 M St. S.W., Washington, D.C. 20460.
EX-EMPLOYEE WINS SUIT UNDER STATE RIGHT-TO-KNOW LAW:

A pregnant woman who refused to work with toxic chemicals unless given information about them has won a lawsuit against an optical company under New York State's
four-year-old right-to-know law.
It is understood to be the first time an employer has been cited under the
state law, which requires that employers respond within 72 hours to an employee's
request for information about workplace hazards and that an employee need not work
with the chemicals if a reply is not received.
Instead, the former employee, Kathryn Stellecht, contended she was fired from
her job as a laboratory technician at Resin Optics, Inc., of Elma, N.Y., a suburb of
Buffalo. She was represented by the office of the State Attorney General, Robert
Abrams, who commented that the case "vindicates the right of workers to demand
information about toxic chemicals in the workplace and to receive training that will
prevent any injuries."
The ruling by the State Supreme Court opened the way for Mrs. Stellecht to
collect back wages, court expenses and possibly be reinstated. She had sought

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Summary of the Agent Orange Settlement Fairness hearings
in San Francisco in Friday, 24 August 1984. Typescript
accompanied by a slip saying, "With the Compliments of the
Embassy of Australia, (J. Grinberg), Second Secretary" 6
September 1984.

Tuesday, August 07, 2001

Page 2049 of 2084

�WASHINGTON. D. C.

6 September 1984

of tie

(J. GRINBERG)
Second Secretary

�AGENT ORANGE HEARING

Six A u s t r a l i a n s appeared before U.S. J u d g e J a c k W e i n s t e i n at the
Agent Orange S e t t l e m e n t F a i r n e s s H e a r i n g s in San F r a n c i s c o on
F r i d a y , 24 August, 1984.
2. A p p e a r i n g were Mr. W i l l i a m T. M c M i l l a n , B a r r i s t e r of
Brisbane; Mr. Ross Lonney, B a r r i s t e r of Perth; Mrs Stephen
Ramsay (June), m e m b e r of the V i e t n a m Veterans' F a m i l y
A s s o c i a t i o n , Perth; Mr. Monty Hollow, S o l i c i t o r and Secretary of
the TPI A s s o c i a t i o n of V i c t o r i a ; Mr. B a r r i e O'Keefe, QC, Sydney;
and Mr. M i c h a e l Bigg, S o l i c i t o r of Brisbane.
3. The A u s t r a l i a n s commenced t h e i r submissions to the J u d g e at
8pm and concluded at 11pm and were g i v e n a very f a i r h e a r i n g .
The judge allowed each of the witnesses to put forward all the
m a t e r i a l they w i s h e d and said t h a t he was prepared to sit all
n i g h t r a t h e r than m a k e them rush t h e i r submissions.
4. Mr. M c M i l l a n told J u d g e W e i n s t e i n he had been i n v o l v e d in
the Agent Orange Class A c t i o n case since 1980.
He gave the
b a c k g r o u n d on how A u s t r a l i a n troops served at Da Nang w h i c h he
said had been h e a v i l y sprayed w i t h d e f o l i a n t and he referred to
the e v i d e n c e of numerous members of the A u s t r a l i a n forces saying
they had gone t h r o u g h d e f o l i a t i o n areas. M c M i l l a n e x p l a i n e d the
operation of law in A u s t r a l i a and the background of the
R e p a t r i a t i o n Act. He gave d e t a i l s of A u s t r a l i a n s serving in
World War I, W o r l d War II, M a l a y a , Korea, Borneo (during
Confrontation) and then V i e t n a m . His evidence covered
background on the RSL lobbying for e x t r a benefits and a p p e a l
p r o v i s i o n s of the R e p a t r i a t i o n Act. Mr M c M i l l a n went on to
o u t l i n e what he t e r m e d the "Nancy Law" case. He also mentioned
the case of "Widow Simpson" and its i m p l i c a t i o n s .
5. M c M i l l a n told the judge that A u s t r a l i a n veterans were s t i l l
b a t t l i n g for r e c o g n i t i o n and were upset and annoyed at not b e i n g
a b l e to get a n y w h e r e in the c h e m i c a l actions.
He said the
R e p a t r i a t i o n Board took a n e g a t i v e v i e w w h i c h was not consistent
w i t h veterans' r i g h t s . W h i l e there were a m e n d m e n t s i n t h e w i n d ,
these would have to a w a i t the r e s u l t of the E v a t t R o y a l
C o m m i s s i o n . Mr. M c M i l l a n gave the court d e t a i l s of A u s t r a l i a ' s
v a r i o u s m e d i c a l schemes a n d coverage w h i c h veterans could
r e c e i v e under pension arrangements. Included was an o u t l i n e of
the new m e d i c a r e scheme and options v e t e r a n s had under t h a t
scheme.
He e x p l a i n e d the operation of the V i e t n a m Veterans'
Counselling Service. Mr. M c M i l l a n referred to the Pearson
C o m m i s s i o n w h i c h he said had i d e n t i f i e d that 86% of c l a i m s were
settled before going to court and that 90% of those going to
court were settled before t r i a l .

�-26. M c M i l l a n compared the Agent O r a n g e case w i t h the T h a l i d o m i d e
H e a r i n g s of the 1960s, saying t h a t the t i m e frames a f f e c t i n g
offspring were s i m i t a r . O t h e r s i m i l a r i t i e s i n c l u d e d c h i l d r e n
b e i n g born deformed. He said in both cases s c i e n t i f i c e v i d e n c e
could not be b r o u g h t forward to prove the cause, but the
c o m p a n i e s i n v o l v e d s t i l l settled.
M r . M c M i l l a n said t h e Agent
Orange case was s i m i l a r and t h a t the s e t t l e m e n t f o r m u l a of 40%
in the T h a l i d o m i d e case m i g h t be a p p r o p r i a t e as a bench mark.
He e x p l a i n e d Dr. W i l l i a m M c B r i d e ' s work in A u s t r a l i a w h i c h led
to the T h a l i d o m i d e h e a r i n g s and t h i s p r o m p t e d a d i s c u s s i o n w i t h
the J u d g e on w h e t h e r the A u s t r a l i a n s e t t l e m e n t money m i g h t
a p p r o p r i a t e l y be d i s t r i b u t e d by a s i m i l a r foundation to the one
that Mr. M c B r i d e had set up in the T h a l i d o m i d e case (Foundation
41) and w h e t h e r Dr. M c B r i d e m i g h t be a b l e to assist in t h i s
instance.
7. M c M i l l a n touched on what A u s t r a l i a n v e t e r a n s t h o u g h t of the
settlement, saying that the NT Veterans' A s s o c i a t i o n was the
only group that had formerly met to discuss the settlement.
It
had i n d i c a t e d total o p p o s i t i o n to settlement.
He said there
were g e n e r a l l y three points w h i c h concerned the veterans:
1. Nobody was a b l e to estimate the amount of money that
should be d i s t r i b u t e d to A u s t r a l i a n veterans;
2. The settlement was a sell out; and
3. Veterans did not want money, but instead wanted a
court hearing of the charges against the c h e m i c a l
companies, so the matter was not hushed up.
8. M c M i l l a n said that other reactions were that in agreeing to
a settlement w i t h o u t b r i n g i n g the companies before the jury was
"letting them off too cheaply".
9. Judge W e i n s t e i n suggested the figure a v a i l a b l e for
A u s t r a l i a n veterans would be in the v i c i n i t y of $1)83,600,000
(although later in the H e a r i n g he made it c l e a r that t h i s f i g u r e
was not a f i n a l one. This only could be worked out when a
d e f i n i t e f o r m u l a was accepted, and a l l s u b m i s s i o n s made. The
f i g u r e was based on a percentage rate of 2 per cent.)
10. D u r i n g t h i s portion of M c M i l l a n ' s evidence, J u d g e W e i n s t e i n
spoke about his c o n v i c t i o n that the A u s t r a l i a n s would have to
come up w i t h a method for d i s t r i b u t i o n and repeatedly said that
he saw his court passing over a cheque for the f i n a l f i g u r e to
an i n d i v i d u a l or an o r g a n i s a t i o n in A u s t r a l i a who would then
a d m i n i s t e r its d i s t r i b u t i o n to veterans. Judge W e i n s t e i n said
it would be very d i f f i c u l t to assess w h e t h e r A u s t r a l i a and New
Zealand troops, because of t h e i r l o c a t i o n at Da Nang, had

�c a r r i e d a h e a v i e r burden in contact w i t h Agent Orange. At t h i s
stage he did not t h i n k his court could do a n y t h i n g about
o r g a n i s i n g t h e d i s t r i b u t i o n o f t h e A u s t r a l i a n settlement f i g u r e
to A u s t r a l i a n veterans.
"It would appear preferable/." he said,
"to take a l u m p sum and g i v e it to your court system for
d i s t r i b u t i o n . If t h i s is not a c c e p t a b l e , the other way would be
to g i v e it to a respected group or i n d i v i d u a l who could
a d m i n i s t e r the d i s t r i b u t i o n of the s e t t l e m e n t funds. That seems
to be a s u b s t a n t i a l issue here." M c M i l l a n asked the J u d g e
w h e t h e r the court would accept h a n d i n g over the s e t t l e m e n t funds
to a n . i n d i v i d u a I such as M c B r i d e .
To t h i s the J u d g e r e p l i e d
that the system he would prefer was the drawing of one single
cheque for a settlement sum for the A u s t r a l i a n s and sending it
to one person or group to enable them to d e v i s e d i s t r i b u t i o n
methods.
He said it was not a p p r o p r i a t e for his court to d e c i d e
w h i c h v e t e r a n s in A u s t r a l i a should r e c e i v e money and it would be
h e l p f u l if all the A u s t r a l i a n s present at the h e a r i n g addressed
t h e i r t h o u g h t s to t h a t s p e c i a l p r o b l e m of a f a i r method of
allocating funds to veterans. He said he would l i k e to ensure
t h a t whatever d i s t r i b u t i o n method was agreed upon, it did not
i n v o l v e lawyers because t h e i r fees would d i m i n i s h the amount
a v a i l a b l e to the veterans. Judge W e i n s t e i n said that the
question of Attorney's fees for those a t t e n d i n g t h i s court
h e a r i n g was a separate p r o b l e m and legal representatives were
being asked to make t h e i r own submissions separately on t h i s
matter.
On the question of t i m i n g , Judge W e i n s t e i n said that
assuming settlement was approved, he would expect the money to
be paid to someone in A u s t r a l i a by the next n o r t h e r n Spring.
Consideration would be g i v e n to i n c l u d i n g interest monies
between now and then.
11. Mr. Ross Lonney said he had been involved in the Agent
Orange action since 1979.
Lonney said he was now C o u n c i l for
v a r i o u s veterans based in Perth, Western A u s t r a l i a w i t h a
s p r i n k l i n g of c l i e n t s elsewhere in A u s t r a l i a . The b a c k g r o u n d of
his i n v o l v e m e n t dated to a m e e t i n g in Western A u s t r a l i a of
veterans. He had since taken i n s t r u c t i o n s from 400 f a m i l i e s .
The cases were so s i m i l a r that e a c h i n v o l v e d only about a
10-minute i n t e r v i e w to d e t e r m i n e j u s t i f i a b l e c l a i m s . Lonney
said that most veterans and t h e i r f a m i l i e s did not want money,
but wanted recognition.
Most had found there had been a major
b l o c k a d e of t h e i r c l a i m s and t h e i r reaction to settlement was
that it was inadequate.
Lonney e x p l a i n e d how the V i e t n a m
Veterans' F a m i l y A s s o c i a t i o n of Western A u s t r a l i a had been
formed and how it later a f f i l i a t e d w i t h the V i e t n a m Veterans'
A s s o c i a t i o n of A u s t r a l i a . As w e l l as his n o r m a l V i e t n a m veteran
clients, Lonney said he had a "one day brief" from 2000
c l a i m a n t s . Lonney said w h i l e he accepted Judge W e i n s t e i n ' s

�-4s e t t l e m e n t proposals, his c l i e n t s , who did not understand the
l e g a l d i f f i c u l t i e s , had a d i f f e r e n t a t t i t u d e . They saw the case
only in terms of w h e t h e r there was enough money. They wanted to
get the c h e m i c a l c o m p a n i e s before the Court and to h a v e e v i d e n c e
produced to show "what the c h e m i c a l s did". Lonney said of his
400 Western A u s t r a l i a c l i e n t s , 90 had i n s t r u c t e d him to a c c e p t
settlement, ten were opposed to it and 300 had made no comment.
Lonney said t h e r e had been no comment from A u s t r a l i a ' s n a t i o n a l
s e r v i c e o r g a n i s a t i o n s , other than that they were prepared to
d i s s e m i n a t e i n f o r m a t i o n on the s e t t l e m e n t to the 4,500 veterans
in Western A u s t r a l i a . Lonney said he would expect about 2000
c l a i m s by veterans from Western A u s t r a l i a . He had been told on
Thursday n i g h t that there were p r e s e n t l y 17 000 c l a i m s before
the Department of Veterans A f f a i r s in A u s t r a l i a . At the
conclusion of Lonney's e v i d e n c e Judge W e i n s t e i n said he did not
know enough about the A u s t r a l i a n law or its systems to be a b l e
to i n t e r p r e t the c l a i m s , or e v a l u a t e them, for A u s t r a l i a n
veterans.
In the case of A m e r i c a n s , the Judge said he was in a
position to m a k e his d e c i s i o n w i t h speed and certainty. It was
for t h i s reason, he said, that he would prefer a s i n g l e cheque
be drawn up and held for whatever plan is proposed for d i s p e r s a l
of the A u s t r a l i a n share of the settlement.
He said he would
prefer not to hear from any A u s t r a l i a n V i e t n a m veterans as he
did not know enough about the A u s t r a l i a n or New Zealand
i n v o l v e m e n t to make a sound judgement. "I am unable," he said,
"to integrate bits and pieces and therefore I would prefer t h a t
you (the A u s t r a l i a n legal representatives at the San F r a n c i s c o
hearing) should have the burden of coming forward w i t h a p l a n on
dispersal."
12. Mrs. Stephen Ramsay told J u d g e W e i n s t e i n that she had
d e c i d e d 21 days ago to fly to San F r a n c i s c o for the hearings.
She gave background to the e s t a b l i s h m e n t of the V i e t n a m
Veterans' F a m i l y A s s o c i a t i o n w h i c h she said had a c h i e v e d its aim
to get the V i e t n a m veterans to t a l k about t h e i r problems.
From
the b e g i n n i n g when they were reluctant to speak out, there was
now a R o y a l C o m m i s s i o n in A u s t r a l i a and the Class A c t i o n in the
U n i t e d States and the v e t e r a n s were "speaking out for
themselves".
She gave e v i d e n c e on how her d e n t a l t e c h n i c i a n
husband had been affected by the V i e t n a m e x p e r i e n c e w h i c h was
not just post war stress, but was l i n k e d to the effects of Agent
Orange. Problems such as these had tremendous consequences on
the f a m i l i e s of all V i e t n a m veterans.
W h a t the veterans wanted
was recognition.
Mrs. Ramsay said t h a t no money could
compensate for the loss of loved ones or m a r r i a g e break-ups.
She was here to ask for justice and now that she had been able
to g i v e e v i d e n c e to the Court, she would be a b l e to go home w i t h
a w a r m heart. At the conclusion of her evidence, J u d g e
W e i n s t e i n said the court was very a p p r e c i a t i v e of
Mrs. Ramsay's efforts and the burden she had u n d e r t a k e n in

�-5c o m i n g to San F r a n c i s c o . "We h a v e shared the b u r d e n of war,"
J u d g e W e i n s t e i n said, "and now we must share the b u r d e n of
peace." The J u d g e said that Mrs. Ramsay's work had o b v i o u s l y
L i g h t e n e d the b u r d e n of many V i e t n a m veterans.
13. Mr. Monty H o l l o w g a v e e v i d e n c e before J u d g e W e i n s t e i n t h a t
he had become i n v o l v e d in the Agent Orange case in 1979.
Mr. H o l l o w said he was pleased to be able to g i v e e v i d e n c e
before the court, but it should be r e m e m b e r e d that he was just a
suburban s o l i c i t o r and not a t r i a l court orator. He said that
J u d g e , W e i n s t e i n had a f o r m i d a b l e record and was noted for his
a b i l i t y to deal w i t h c o m p l e x cases. This brought a response
from the J u d g e who joked about the conclusions of the Agent
Orange case and his future r e c o g n i t i o n in connection w i t h
c o m p l e x cases. Mr. H o l l o w said the A u s t r a l i a n s sought j u s t i c e
and recognition.
He gave d e t a i l s of i n d i v i d u a l cases and his
e v i d e n c e at t i m e s was e m o t i o n a l (at one stage he c h a r g e d t h a t
the United States and A u s t r a l i a had come very close to
c o m m i t t i n g w a r c r i m e s i n Vietnam, said t h a t corporate A m e r i c a
s t i l l had m u c h to answer for, described the Agent Orange case as
the most s i g n i f i c a n t Hearing in the Western world since the
N u r e m b e r g T r i a l s and c l a i m e d that the Dow Company was being let
off the hook). Mr. Hollow said the V i e t n a m veterans had the
same major problem he had and that was no funds and t h i s was the
reason many of the A u s t r a l i a n veterans had not appeared before
the court. They had been told not to get involved because costs
would probably go against them. Mr. H o l l o w disagreed w i t h Judge
W e i n s t e i n on w h a t he said was the " p a r t i t i o n i n g off" of the
A u s t r a l i a n c l a i m s (he was r e f e r r i n g to the Judge's comments on
d i s t r i b u t i o n of the A u s t r a l i a n share of the settlement). H o l l o w
said t h i s would b r i n g about a dispute of the c r e d i b i l i t y of the
A m e r i c a n Court system and told the Judge that "Pontios P i l a t e
could wash his hands, but the Judge could not".
Mr. Hollow said
that the A u s t r a l i a n people b e l i e v e d that justice would be meted
out at the A m e r i c a n t r i a l and that a lot of f a i t h was being
placed by A u s t r a l i a n s on the A m e r i c a n j u d i c i a l system. It was
b e l i e v e d that t h i s was the only p l a c e w h e r e j u s t i c e would be
done in the Agent Orange m a t t e r and that j u s t i c e would be
c a r r i e d out no m a t t e r how big the company. Mr. Hollow said the
Dow Company was worth at least $US5 000 m i l l i o n and had
u n l i m i t e d funds to f i g h t the Agent Orange case. He said it was
being quoted that the lawyers for the company were l a u g h i n g that
they got t h e i r settlement for ten cents in the d o l l a r . He
questioned the adequacy of the settlement in v i e w of the
enormous p r o f i t a b i l i t y and resources of the defendent. He
pointed out that from the t i m e of the end of the V i e t n a m
c o n f l i c t a s i n g l e investment of SUS40 m i l l i o n would have earned
the company enough interest to fund the $US181 settlement.
He

�-6noted t h a t the Dow Company had spent somewhere in the v i c i n i t y
of SUS55 m i l l i o n in its defense w h i c h showed the inadequacy of
the s e t t l e m e n t figure. The company, he said, w o u l d c l a i m t h i s
SUS70 m i l l i o n and the $1)5181 m i l l i o n s e t t l e m e n t as tax losses.
The r e a l question was the company's c a p a c i t y to pay, Mr. H o l l o w
said. Mr. H o l l o w compared e x a m p l e s of h a n d i c a p s a f f e c t i n g the
f a m i l i e s of V i e t n a m veterans and those people affected by motor
v e h i c l e and i n d u s t r i a l accidents. The latter would r e c e i v e
s u b s t a n t i a l damages for the sorts of i n j u r i e s c o m p a r a b l e w i t h
the veterans' f a m i l i e s . There had been m u c h said about how m u c h
i n d i v i d u a l veterans could expect to r e c e i v e ranging from as Low
as SUS211 per i n d i v i d u a l to $US1,500 in some cases w i t h the h i g h
being an e s t i m a t e d $US40,000. Mr. H o l l o w referred to a l e t t e r
he had r e c e i v e d from the P r i m e M i n i s t e r of A u s t r a l i a , r e f e r r i n g
to the V i e t n a m veterans' p r o b l e m s w i t h Agent Orange in w h i c h the
P r i m e M i n i s t e r said t h a t one of the m a i n p r o b l e m s was the L a c k
of s p e c i f i c e v i d e n c e on the effects of exposure. He said the
P r i m e M i n i s t e r ' s letter referred to the p o s s i b i l i t y that the
veterans' few needs would not be met by the r e p a t r i a t i o n
system. D i s c u s s i n g how the settlement d i s t r i b u t i o n could be
handled Mr. H o l l o w referred to the P r i m e M i n i s t e r ' s economic/
i n d u s t r i a l consensus agreement.
He e x p l a i n e d how c o n f l i c t i n g
sides in A u s t r a l i a had been d i r e c t e d t h r o u g h consensus to a
course of action and said that it was s t i l l possible for
discussions w i t h c h e m i c a l companies i n v o l v e d in the Agent Orange
case to see w h e t h e r t h i s sort of solution could be used to h e l p
the V i e t n a m veterans of the future.
At the c o n c l u s i o n of the
last of Mr. Hollow's evidence, Judge W e i n s t e i n said he t h o u g h t
Mr. Hollow had been most eloquent and when the Melbourne
s o l i c i t o r suggested he was t a k i n g up too m u c h of the court's
time, the Judge said: "you could speak a l l n i g h t if you L i k e ,
I'll be happy to hear you."
Mr. Hollow said he would not speak
all night, but would l i k e to refer to a s p e c i f i c case, that of
Barry K e l l y who served in V i e t n a m from October 1964 and saw
spray f a l l i n g on h i m s e l f and colleagues w h i c h was Agent Orange.
D u r i n g his d e s c r i p t i o n of p h y s i c a l defects in the subsequent
K e l l y c h i l d r e n and a c l a i m that Kelly's wife suffered cancer of
the c e r v i x as a result, J u d g e W e i n s t e i n c l a s h e d w i t h Mr. H o l l o w
after a s k i n g w h a t e v i d e n c e e x i s t e d t h a t Agent Orange at any t i m e
had caused c a n c e r of the c e r v i x . The Judge said that it was
essential to the case that if you cannot e s t a b l i s h a cause of a
deformity or p h y s i c a l problem, that there was no case. "That is
why we are looking at a sett lement... there is just no e v i d e n c e
of Agent Orange causing cancer of the cervix," he said. Judge
W e i n s t e i n said he would not c r e d i t Mr. Hollow's c l a i m that the
c h e m i c a l company had u n l i m i t e d funds to f i g h t its case. He said
everyone was f u l l y aware of what e v i d e n c e existed and the
settlement agreement was b e i n g proposed even though the
p l a i n t i f f ' s case was not as adequate as that of the defense.

�-7The J u d g e pointed out t h a t there was no e v i d e n c e to i n d i c a t e any
v a r i a t i o n of s c i e n t i f i c proof a v a i l a b l e in A u s t r a l i a to that
a v a i l a b l e in A m e r i c a . The A u s t r a l i a n e v i d e n c e did not show any
clearer, c a u s a l i t y , t h a n did the A m e r i c a n evidence." If there
is no c a u s a t i o n e v i d e n c e then any f i g u r e above zero p a i d to the
V i e t n a m veterans is q u i t e u n a c c e p t a b l e to the defendant." J u d g e
W e i n s t e i n said. He added t h a t had the Agent Orange case gone
before a court in England or A u s t r a l i a , there was no doubt t h a t
under those l e g a l systems, it would have resulted in d i s m i s s a l
w i t h a ruling of substantial costs against the plaintiff.
He
understood the p o s i t i o n Mr. Hollow was arguing, but did not
accept the i m p l i e d c r i t i c i s m of the amount of the settlement.
14. Mr. Barry O'Keefe, QC, said that s i n c e J u l y 1983 he had been
i n v o l v e d in the Agent Orange R o y a l Commission.
He gave J u d g e
W e i n s t e i n background on the R o y a l C o m m i s s i o n and told the J u d g e
that the C o m m i s s i o n would be v i s i t i n g the United States to hold
H e a r i n g s in late September.
O'Keefe undertook to convey an
i n v i t a t i o n from the Judge to the Royal C o m m i s s i o n e r to meet w i t h
him in New York. Mr. O'Keefe on the request of Judge Weinstein
undertook to make a v a i l a b l e to the Judge a copy of the f i n a l
Royal C o m m i s s i o n report when it was published.
He corrected
e a r l i e r evidence g i v e n at the San F r a n c i s c o Hearing that the
A u s t r a l i a n Royal C o m m i s s i o n had laughed at evidence p r o v i d e d in
a study quoted in the court h e a r i n g . He said that the Royal
C o m m i s s i o n had g i v e n the study serious consideration.
Mr. O'Keefe said he would l i k e to c o n f i r m that there was no data
in A u s t r a l i a on c a u s a l i t y that c o n f l i c t e d w i t h or was any
stronger than any evidence of c a u s a l i t y presented at the United
States Hearings.
15. Mr. M i c h a e l B i g g said he only wished to m a k e a s u b m i s s i o n on
one point and that was the d i f f i c u l t y that had occured in
n o t i f y i n g veterans in A u s t r a l i a of the Agent Orange settlement,
the Fairness Court Hearings and the need to loge c l a i m s . B i g g
said h e - w i s h e d to m a k e the Court aware that there was
c o n s i d e r a b l e delay in getting notices out in A u s t r a l i a to inform
veterans. At the c o n c l u s i o n of Mr. Bigg's evidence, Mr. H o l l o w
asked to be reheard and said that he had one a d d i t i o n a l p o i n t he
would l i k e to make. This was that there was much c r i t i c i s m in
A u s t r a l i a of the R o y a l C o m m i s s i o n and its i n a c c e s s i b i l i t y to
people w i s h i n g to p l a c e evidence before it. Mr. H o l l o w said as
both a s o l i c i t o r from V i c t o r i a and a secretary from the TPI
A s s o c i a t i o n he had been refused leave to appear before the Royal
C o m m i s s i o n and t h i s was something he wanted Judge W e i n s t e i n to
know.
16. The above s u m m a r y is p a r a p h r a s e d and should be used for
i n f o r m a t i o n only.

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from the following book: Agent Orange and its
Associated Dioxin: Assessment of a Controversy.
Young, A. L. and G. M. Reggiani, eds. New York:
Elsevier, 1988. This book is available in the NAL
collection, call no.: RA1242 T44 A3. This item gives a
good overview of the Agent Orange Controversy and
the political issues around it.

Tuesday, May 15, 2001

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�CHAPTER 1
"AGENT ORANGE AT THE CROSSROADS OF SCIENCE AND SOCIAL CONCERNS"

INTRODUCTION
A. L. Young and G. Reggiani

For almost two decades, the United States has been involved in
controversy over its tactical use of herbicides in Southeast
Asia during the Vietnam Conflict. The controversy centered first
on the actual employment of herbicides in South Vietnam, then on
the safe disposal of surplus herbicide following the Conflict,
and lastly whether herbicides were responsible for health problems
reported among Vietnam veterans.
The use of chemicals (herbicides) to control vegetation has been
one of the most controversial subjects arising from the Vietnam
Conflict. The United States Air Force applied most of these
herbicides in jungle areas to clear vegetation from the perimeters
of military bases and camps, along lines of communication, and in
enemy staging areas. The objective was to provide defoliated zones
that would reduce ambushes and disrupt enemy tactics. The most
commonly used "defoliant" was "Agent Orange", a mixture of two
commercial herbicides widely employed for a number of years in
brush control programs throughout the United States and other
countries.
During a five-year period from 1965 to 1970, the United States
Air Force applied more than 42 million liters of Agent Orange in
South Vietnam, and some 2.5 million military personnel from the

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United States, Australia, New Zealand, and South Korea served
one-year tours during the same period. Beginning in 1978, many
veterans of that era have reported medical problems that they
believed stemmed from exposure to Agent Orange during their military assignements. Their complaints have ranged from tingling
in the extremities to rare forms of cancer. Some veterans had
fathered children with birth defects. But overwhelming scientific data on the toxicology of chemical components in Agent Orange
do not substantiate these claims.
Nevertheless, the news media has given intense sympathetic coverage to the veterans and their medical complaints. In the meantime,
the governments of the United States and Australia have mobilized
the massive resources of their federal agencies to conduct multimillion dollar, long-term studies of military personnel allegedly
exposed to herbicides in South Vietnam from 1962 to 1970. The
issue is whether actual or perceived health problems stem from
herbicide exposure or whether other factors drive the controversy.
Two key questions must be considered in reviewing present concerns
over Agent Orange. First, why did the Agent Orange issue surface
10 years after it was used in Vietnam? Second, what criteria can
be used to insure an objective analysis of such a complex, controversial, and politically sensitive subject? One answer to the first
question may be that presumed health effects from exposure to the
herbicide did not appear, or at least, were not diagnosed among
Vietnam veterans until late in the 1970's. Another possible answer
is that the general public and Congress only lately recognized the
concerns of Vietnam veterans, and Agent Orange is only a vehicle
to focus those concerns. Certainly, the acrimony and bitterness
over involvement in Vietnam drove most Americans to repress memories
of that war. As a result, they have tended either to ignore veterans
of the Vietnam era or to relegate to a lesser status than veterans
of other wars. Certainly the longing for respectability of Vietnam

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veterans have coincided with increasing American and world-wide
interest in health and environmental issues. Thus, the controversy surrounding Agent Orange has surfaced primarily because
it involves the veterans and herbicides, both of which have
been the center of controversy since they were employed in
Vietnam.
Much of the controversy concerning Agent Orange is attributable
to concern over its toxic dioxin contaminant 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin (TCDD). A large volume of toxicological data on
2,4,5-trichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4,5-T) and 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4-D), the two herbicides in Agent Orange,
were available during the final years of United States involvment
in Vietnam, but woefully inadequate toxicological and environmental
data on TCDD precluded resolution of the issues. Although scientists
recognized that TCDD was acutely toxic and teratogenic (birth
deforming) in laboratory animals, no studies were available on
the effects of chronic longterm, low-level exposure in lower mammalian species. Furthermore, numerous occupational exposures to
TCDD were reported during the industrial production of trichlorophenol, but. human epiderniologic studies were not available despite
documented exposure as early as 1949.
To further complicate the Agent Orange controversy, during the
1970s a number of major chemical episodes occurred that fueled
the issues. In July 1976, the Seveso Accident occurred wherein
a small Italian community became contaminated with TCDD as a
consequence of an accidental release of reactor products from
the synthesis of trichlorophenol. The following years, the controversy surrounding the Love Canal made front page news throughout
the United States and Europe. This was subsequently followed by
the evacuation of Times Beach, Missouri, as a result of the dioxin
contamination from the improper disposition of chemical wastes.

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All of these episodes, conbined with the regulatory response of
the United States Federal Agencies resulted in further commitment
of national and state resources to adress the human and environmental impact of dipxin and the phenoxy herbicides.
The scientific resolution of the Agent Orange controversy presumable rests with the results of human epidemiologic studies
assessing the long-term effects of exposure to TCDD and whether
the veterans' complaints are consistent with the data. Of course,
one major as sumption would necessarly be that military personnel
reporting health effects were, in fact, exposed to Agent Orange
and, hence, to TCDD during their tours in Vietnam. Regardless
of any reported health effects, a valid study must include examination of all facets of the controversy.
This requirement poses a dilemma in any attempt to answer the
second question because objective analysis depends on such an
examination, but there are simply no models available for analyzing
environmental health issues.
In a subsequent chapter of this book, Young, proposes that the
examination of environmental crises involving other chemicals
can provide a useful parallel for analyzing the Agent Orange controversy. Accordingly, he suggests that there are a series of
events that describe the nature of "quality of life" controversies
and that these are predictable events. Hence, the chapters and
topics of this book are intended to elucidate such characteristics
as adequacy of the scientific data and assessement of the political,
social and legal issues of the Agent Orange Controversy. It is
appropriate that we adress these components of the controversy
at this time because much, if not most, of the information necessary to make informed judgements is now available. In addition,
certain actions of the courts in the United States, Italy, and
Australia, have taken action that have a significant impact on
the final outcome of the controversy.

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On May 9, 1985 the district court for the Eastern District of New
York rendered the final judgement on the largest class action
lawsuit in American legal history, i.e., the Agent Orange product liability litigation.
The central issue of the case was "the ability of the plaintiffs
to demonstrate the necessary causal connection between the exposure of the veterans to Agent Orange and the subsequent development of a variety of ailments".
In the final judgement it was concluded that the incidence provided
by the plaintiffs "lacks sufficient probative force, except in the
case of chloracne, to permit a finding of general causality".
On July 31st, 1985 the Australian Royal Commission on the use and
effects of chemical agents on Autralian personnel in Vietnam,
presented its final report of inquiry to the Governor General.
The report concluded that neither Agent Orange nor the chemical
agents used to defoliate battle zones in Vietnam have any causal
connection with the ailments of the Australian Vietnam veterans.
At about the same time (May 1985) the Court of Appeal of Milan,
Italy, revised the first judgement on the defendants in the Seveso
case largely accepting their claims and the International Steering
Committee for the study of the effects on health of the Seveso
accident concluded its work stating that "nearly 8 years after the
accident in Seveso it has become obvious that besides chloracne
in a very small group of children, no adverse health effects
related to the chemical produced by the accident have been oberwed".
These events prompted us to ask the question whether the outcome
of the judiciary assessements of the Agent Orange issues and the
conclusions of the International Advisory Committee steering the
health surveys of the Seveso population exposed to dioxin could be
taken as a landmark also for the other aspects of the same issue,
i.e., the medical and scientific, the social and political issues
associated with it.

�- 6-

We thought may be the time had arrived for trying to come to a
conclusion of a controversy which has been at the center of concern of million of people and of the governments of several
nations of the western world, beside having affected and changed
the course of our personal life for more than 10 years.
Hence we readily accepted and greatly appreciated the offer of
the Toxicology Forum to present an assessement of the controversial issues related to Agent Orange and Dioxin in the light of
our present knowledge at the Summer Meeting in Aspen, July 1985
and at the Winter Meeting in Washington in February 1986.
We are aware of the difficulties of the task which we have set
for us. In our quest of truth we have approached the issue of the
Agent Orange controversy and its association with Dioxin with
hunrilty, conscious of the impact it has on human lives. However
we tried to remain faithful 1 to the rules of the scientific tradition of research that requires unequivocal proof of cause and
effect relationship in its experimental models. In the choice of
the contributors we have looked not only for professional competence but also for qualities such as reason, logic and objectivity.
We trust that all of us as well as the selected audience of the
Toxicology Forum which discussed the presentations have been
accurate and unbiased.
The future will tell whether in fact the conclusions of the New
York district court and of the Royal Commission of Inquiry mark
the end of the Agent Orange controversy. It is our fervent hope
for all concerned that this will be the case.
However already now we would like to acknowledge the help, advice,
and support we have received from so many scientists and scholars.
Without their suggestions, their sympathy, their goodwill and competence we would not have been, able to put togheter an adequate
account of the Agent Orange controversy.

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